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GZ's avatar

This is an interesting connection and I very much agree with your thoughts here. And I’m glad to see my comment was the impetus for some thinking and writing on your part!

It feels wrong to me now after the Covid years where the line was always “trust the experts” to have to “trust the experts” for matters of faith as well. Especially when we learned from Covid that “the experts” were wrong about pretty much everything.

When I talked with my friend about what Catholicism entails, I just kept wondering where the Biblical foundation for these practices was. Much of it seems to be from the Catechism and just part of Catholic tradition. I genuinely don’t understand where concepts of a Pope, praying to Saints, or purgatory come from if you are just using the Bible as your foundation. Obviously, Catholics have justifications for all of these things, but my reading of the Bible so far seems to actually pretty directly rebuke these practices.

It does start to feel authoritarian when the typical Catholic line on a lot of these things is that you need to trust them and it relies more on tangential arguments about how it’s “the original church.” Though when I went down a rabbit whole about the practice of Marian veneration, that didn’t start until the 3rd and 4th century, so many of the Church’s beliefs today were in fact not part of the “first church.” And when there are quotes in the Bible such as 1 Timothy 2:5: “For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,” how do you pray to Mary and accept the authority of a Pope? I don’t usually like to rely on out-of-context Bible quotes, but from what I’ve read so far, the New Testament especially seems to reinforce the idea in that verse.

Catholics are entitled to their beliefs, but I don’t agree with the idea that reading the Bible full of God’s teachings isn’t enough of a foundation for my faith, and I need to trust another authority and their writings and teachings.

Ultimately though, I agree with your point that a specific church is not the solution, but rather truly and earnestly turning to and trusting in God is needed. I think that starts with reading the Bible, because that’s the one text Christians agree on, at least in theory. It’s not about bickering between different sects, but it’s about doing our own reflecting and coming to faith with understanding, reverence, and humility.

And when the globalist cabal has been so wrong about so many things, I’m going to keep doing my own research for now…!

Thank you for the thoughtful article! More to think about…

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I think you are confusing, legitimate authority with authoritarianism. The idea of a well ordered society without authority, without hierarchy - has always simply provided a stalking horse for worldly despotism. The upsurge in sincerity, individualism and an unmediated relation to God that came with the Protestant revolution, did not open the door to the city of God. It paved the way to capitalism, nationalism, secularism, and materialism. Only through Jesus, can we be saved. As individuals and as coherence societies. But we come to Jesus through the church.

As a matter of fact, the reformation in England did not rescue a moribund Church . The pre-reformation church was vibrant and dynamic. The reformation was a top down act of vandalism in England. This is very clear now from the work of historian such as Eamon O Duffy And on the continent, it went much further than Luther had ever envisaged. And the final result after 500 years has been a catastrophe. . You only have to look at the Anglican church now. I don’t think any reasonable observer could conclude otherwise.

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